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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by Millemakk on Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:05 pm

oK, I will, thank you Brother Lance.
i would like to start by saying that the prophecy by the Lords feasts was something that makes perfect sense and i never heard it before. The first four feasts fullfilled. (maybe all of you knew it, i don´t know but i have been ignorant of it, therefore It thrills me how Gods living word through scripture is a treasure full of pearls Smile

I will get back with more later.
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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by Millemakk on Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:20 pm

There is a little problem i´m having or the speaker maybe has, I am not quite sure what it means but:

When the commandment goes forward to rebuild jerusalem, there willl be the weeks and the threescore and two week, which comes to 69..and
then scripture reads...."until Messiah"....but the speaker writes in the timeline "till the Lords return". I am just thinking that that would change the timeline a bit because Jesus was messiah when he came first time to rescure the lost and then will he return.
Jesus have to have been here one time first in order to `return´,
so this will give us a hole other window, because the 69 weeks would be until Jesus Mesiah would come as God spoke through the old prophets.
wow..the speaker believes in pre rapture, i did not think about that or notice or maybe i was sleeping :/ . He puts 7 year tribulation after Lords return.



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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by HearHisVoice on Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:48 pm

Sister...I will look at this video again...ok?
I never saw that he believes in a pretrib...and I thought he shows Jesus being here the first time in the graphs
But I will look at this again...I would like to double check it...

I know that the 12 part series is more detailed...

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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by HearHisVoice on Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:00 pm

Sister Anja,
I am looking at this now....He shows the Lord's return....RETURN means to come again.
The graph shows Him returning right before the milennium. --the last 1000 years==sooooo that is not pretrib.....

It is AFTER-----following the tribulation... but right before the 1000 year milennium...
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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by Sharruken on Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:11 am

Anja writes:
When the commandment goes forward to rebuild jerusalem, there willl be
the weeks and the threescore and two week, which comes to 69..and
then scripture reads...."until Messiah"....but the speaker writes in the timeline "till the Lords return".


If I understand your concern correctly, then I think you are asking a very good question at this point.

"How does the teacher justify CHANGING what seems to be the most natural understanding of the passage?"

Before we can EVEN BEGIN to discuss how his interpretation of the prophecy may or may not align with our expectation of coming events, we must FIRST determine if he has a leg to stand on.

I hope you will share your conclusions on this matter once you get your thoughts together on the issue.

Your brother....... Lance

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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by Millemakk on Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:14 pm

Dear Brother Lance,
First, thank you for asking theese questions because I am invited to find the truth if it also stands. i apreaciate this very much.
It a time since i saw this or posted this and i am going over it again to recall what it was that i found an eyeopener. it was the feasts first of all.
and then.....i am very unsure about the count from 1947 because i believe the word went from Aterxerxes decree, then Jerusalem was a nation again until the desolation 70 ad. I have to admit to you that I am a little to much
confused about my choice of this because I cannot remember why I would agree with the naming of timeset for the return of Jesus. BUT first i still
did not se that he put the tribulation after Jesus return (and called `until Mesiah´for "Jesus return" because that lieves a problem.
I regret I posted this video, it should have been about the feasts..period.
I would like to hear your thoughts Lance, please go ahead, I´m full ears!
In Jesus Christ
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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by HearHisVoice on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:08 pm

Dear sister,
He did NOT put the tribulation after Jesus return. He even brought up the scripture in Mathew stateing that AFTER the tribulation we will see the changed in the moon and sun THEN we will see the son of man.
This is the scripture he used..

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

I have watched this many times. He is not teaching a pretrib....
He clearly shows Jesus returning AFTER the tribulation and BEFORE the millenium.
Just need to let you know this, sister...
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Re: Daniels Timeline.

Post by Millemakk on Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:18 pm

Hello Sister Mary,
I am looking at the timeline showing
starting point-------70 years--------Gods rest

commandment
to restore------------69years--------Lords return and AFTER this time
"the days emmediately following days of tribulatio" and that is between
Lords return and Gods rest1

try take a look again...also it is written "unto the Messiah" NOT "lords return".
Do you se this Sister? So he does indeed scedual tribulation after Lords return.....or he made a mistake!!

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